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	<title>Comments on: Where Should We Go Rather than Where We are Unavoidably Going from Here?</title>
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		<title>By: Orson Scott Card is Crazy &#124; Stump Lane</title>
		<link>http://stumplane.us/2008/05/14/where-should-we-go-rather-than-where-we-are-unavoidably-going-from-here/#comment-723</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Orson Scott Card is Crazy &#124; Stump Lane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] As someone leaning towards the &#8216;no, the state shouldn&#8217;t go on&#8217; end of the &#8216;what should we do about empire?&#8217; spectrum, I don&#8217;t know why I would [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As someone leaning towards the &#8216;no, the state shouldn&#8217;t go on&#8217; end of the &#8216;what should we do about empire?&#8217; spectrum, I don&#8217;t know why I would [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Please, Please, Please, Let Me, Let Me, Let Me, Get the COTL Submissions I Want This Time &#124; Stump Lane</title>
		<link>http://stumplane.us/2008/05/14/where-should-we-go-rather-than-where-we-are-unavoidably-going-from-here/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Please, Please, Please, Let Me, Let Me, Let Me, Get the COTL Submissions I Want This Time &#124; Stump Lane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Hint: check Stump Lane&#8217;s mission statement (courtesy philosopher Slavoj Žižek) for a vague idea of how to get a submission on the inside [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hint: check Stump Lane&#8217;s mission statement (courtesy philosopher Slavoj Žižek) for a vague idea of how to get a submission on the inside [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fehlleistungen</title>
		<link>http://stumplane.us/2008/05/14/where-should-we-go-rather-than-where-we-are-unavoidably-going-from-here/#comment-721</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fehlleistungen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 02:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Try this Zizek piece on related topics: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n22/zize01_.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &quot;Resistance is Surrender&quot;&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this Zizek piece on related topics: <a href="http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n22/zize01_.html" rel="nofollow"> &#8220;Resistance is Surrender&#8221;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Quote of the Day &#124; Neural Gourmet</title>
		<link>http://stumplane.us/2008/05/14/where-should-we-go-rather-than-where-we-are-unavoidably-going-from-here/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quote of the Day &#124; Neural Gourmet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 06:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Stump Lane.   #Neural Gourmet PoliciesThere&#039;s now a Policy page underneath the About menu. I&#039;ll add to or [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stump Lane.   #Neural Gourmet PoliciesThere&#8217;s now a Policy page underneath the About menu. I&#8217;ll add to or [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Montag</title>
		<link>http://stumplane.us/2008/05/14/where-should-we-go-rather-than-where-we-are-unavoidably-going-from-here/#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Montag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MR Bill, you know full well your so-called &quot;bank bailouts&quot; would never have been necessary if all those deadbeats hadn&#039;t lied about their income to get mortgages for artificially overpriced property they couldn&#039;t afford!

This way, the Capitalists get the property (foreclosures) &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; their money (bailout) back.  They aren&#039;t called Capitalists for nothing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MR Bill, you know full well your so-called &#8220;bank bailouts&#8221; would never have been necessary if all those deadbeats hadn&#8217;t lied about their income to get mortgages for artificially overpriced property they couldn&#8217;t afford!</p>
<p>This way, the Capitalists get the property (foreclosures) <em>and</em> their money (bailout) back.  They aren&#8217;t called Capitalists for nothing!</p>
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		<title>By: MR Bill</title>
		<link>http://stumplane.us/2008/05/14/where-should-we-go-rather-than-where-we-are-unavoidably-going-from-here/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MR Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems, after year of rightist propaganda, from the American Enterprise Institute and the phalanx of Total Capitalist opinion molders, that we as a country literally cannot think about alternatives or criticism to &#039;Capitalism&#039;.
Our lack of any alternatives has left in in a condition where incredibly anti-capitalist actions and intervention into the Market (I didn&#039;t want to put &#039;Free&#039; in quotes there) such as the recent Bank bailouts are not recognized generally as &#039;not Capitalist&#039;.
It&#039;s sorta like Voltaire&#039;s line about &quot;If Satan should take the throne of God, he would have to assume the attributes of Deity&quot;.
Socialism for the &#039;Capitalists&#039; and everyone else is at the mercy of the Market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems, after year of rightist propaganda, from the American Enterprise Institute and the phalanx of Total Capitalist opinion molders, that we as a country literally cannot think about alternatives or criticism to &#8216;Capitalism&#8217;.<br />
Our lack of any alternatives has left in in a condition where incredibly anti-capitalist actions and intervention into the Market (I didn&#8217;t want to put &#8216;Free&#8217; in quotes there) such as the recent Bank bailouts are not recognized generally as &#8216;not Capitalist&#8217;.<br />
It&#8217;s sorta like Voltaire&#8217;s line about &#8220;If Satan should take the throne of God, he would have to assume the attributes of Deity&#8221;.<br />
Socialism for the &#8216;Capitalists&#8217; and everyone else is at the mercy of the Market.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 16:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The difference between neo-Liberalism and neo-Conservatism is akin to the difference between stabbing someone in the heart or shooting them with a gun.

TI recognise the second group, but I wouldn&#039;t like to think  I entirely belong to it (though I very likely do - especially when it comes to moralising)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between neo-Liberalism and neo-Conservatism is akin to the difference between stabbing someone in the heart or shooting them with a gun.</p>
<p>TI recognise the second group, but I wouldn&#8217;t like to think  I entirely belong to it (though I very likely do &#8211; especially when it comes to moralising)</p>
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		<title>By: Montag</title>
		<link>http://stumplane.us/2008/05/14/where-should-we-go-rather-than-where-we-are-unavoidably-going-from-here/#comment-716</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Montag]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 12:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, Frederick.  I thought you guys from Area 51 might appreciate Žižek&#039;s assessment of today&#039;s left as consisting of conformist &#039;Fukuyamaists,&#039; who stand for &lt;em&gt;&quot;...pragmatic social democracy—basically, Clinton here, Blair in the UK and so on...&quot;&lt;/em&gt;  and the &lt;em&gt;&quot;moralistic radical left, politically correct all the time,&quot;&lt;/em&gt; and continues to say the groups &lt;em&gt;&quot;are like twin phenomena [where] the one is parasitic...&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

As to the first group, I have expressed, albeit in internet graffiti, that I really have trouble spotting the difference between &quot;Neo-Liberalism&quot; and &quot;Neo-Conservatism.&quot;

As to the second group... well I have to admit to a certain amount of my own &quot;abstract moralism,&quot; but can&#039;t we just chalk it up to the need to ask fundamental, tough questions and the attempt to fully understand the lessons of the past?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Frederick.  I thought you guys from Area 51 might appreciate Žižek&#8217;s assessment of today&#8217;s left as consisting of conformist &#8216;Fukuyamaists,&#8217; who stand for <em>&#8220;&#8230;pragmatic social democracy—basically, Clinton here, Blair in the UK and so on&#8230;&#8221;</em>  and the <em>&#8220;moralistic radical left, politically correct all the time,&#8221;</em> and continues to say the groups <em>&#8220;are like twin phenomena [where] the one is parasitic&#8230;&#8221;</em></p>
<p>As to the first group, I have expressed, albeit in internet graffiti, that I really have trouble spotting the difference between &#8220;Neo-Liberalism&#8221; and &#8220;Neo-Conservatism.&#8221;</p>
<p>As to the second group&#8230; well I have to admit to a certain amount of my own &#8220;abstract moralism,&#8221; but can&#8217;t we just chalk it up to the need to ask fundamental, tough questions and the attempt to fully understand the lessons of the past?</p>
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		<title>By: Frederick</title>
		<link>http://stumplane.us/2008/05/14/where-should-we-go-rather-than-where-we-are-unavoidably-going-from-here/#comment-715</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frederick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is capitalism, something so widely pervasive that it colors every aspect of everything everywhere with it&#039;s presence, is something so large and amorphous authoritarian? Certainly not sentient. Žižek hits on something here, &quot;we accept all this.&quot; That&#039;s the bottom line.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is capitalism, something so widely pervasive that it colors every aspect of everything everywhere with it&#8217;s presence, is something so large and amorphous authoritarian? Certainly not sentient. Žižek hits on something here, &#8220;we accept all this.&#8221; That&#8217;s the bottom line.</p>
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